U67 Early Look: Too Many Cooks

[HunterRayder93]

Almost all of our quests trend toward the more serious side, and we've been up-front about these quests being something a bit more light-hearted and different. For those who don't appreciate the more amusing slice of life nature of these quests, we'll be back to more typical adventuring after this.

I don't agree, it's nice to sometimes also create fun and entertaining quests... it doesn't have to be all serious and dark, damn! Cordovan you and the SSG team I love you and appreciate your work but don't be intimidated by 4 players and that's it... don't let your creativity be limited, and this is the problem of today's society, there is too much political correctness and too much limitation in fantasy and imagination, be free BE YOURSELF!

 

[HunterRayder93]

Just previewed this quest and have to say I really enjoyed it!

One of the things I love about DDO is the wide range of content it offers. (Death House is still one of the creepiest quests in the game thanks to some great voice acting and appropriate music.) I hope that any devs watching take the positive feedback alongside the negative and aren't discouraged from including less-serious content in the future! I love the easter eggs and pop culture refrences, so please keep those coming in future content!

Some days you get to save all of Eberron... other days you get transformed into a helium baloon or a puzzle tile to stop a deranged demi-god. In a world in which magic is the norm, I would expect the peculiar to be interwover throughout the heroic adventure. If this particular type of content isn't for you, that's OK. But many of us DO enjoy it very much!

Exact! D&D is not just epic adventures and serious and dark themes, it can also be a place for absurd and bizarre stories.

 

[Aaabbbcccddd]

Exact! D&D is not just epic adventures and serious and dark themes, it can also be a place for absurd and bizarre stories.

That is true. I mean when playing with friends on a real table the chance that it gets bizarre and absurd are pretty high. And I love getting a good chuckle out of a quest. But there is also a reason why Ravenloft is the most popular expansion. And I don't thing it has anything to do with political correctness, when player prefer more darker quests than those super light hearted.

 

[popejubal]

That is not the game that was sold at launch and does not represent the trajectory of the game for many years thereafter.

The dev team certainly has the creative freedom to take whatever path they want, but if pop culture references, gingerbread golems, and balls of yarn are the new norm, then I'll just have to accept that this is no longer a game I find interesting and move on.

I’m glad that DDO didn’t used to fill its quests with puns and pop culture references.

Anyway, I’m going to go fight Mentau the Fleshmaker now.

 

[Shear-buckler]

I’m glad that DDO didn’t used to fill its quests with puns and pop culture references.

Anyway, I’m going to go fight Mentau the Fleshmaker now.

If you can't tell the difference between an obscure clever pun and blatant writer self-inserts of their contemporary first world problems I don't know what to tell you.

 

[cdbd3rd]

This game has never taken itself particularly seriously. It is and always has been heavily larded with pop culture references and goofy jokes. This is the game where you drink beholders under the table, make airships out of furniture, get in dance battles with daelkyr lords, and witness the power of this fully armed and operational warforged titan.

Fight scorpions named Schenker...

Being an occasional blip in the overall game is what makes these things enjoyable. I wouldn't want to see the whole game turn (more) into a full-on goof-fest.

[[ Why yes, I did once run a tabletop encounter based on the song Devil Went Down To Georgia. Why do you ask? ]]

 

[Glargfest]

If you can't tell the difference between an obscure clever pun and blatant writer self-inserts of their contemporary first world problems I don't know what to tell you.

It’s obscure enough that I don’t know what it is, for sure

 

[Shear-buckler]

Being an occasional blip in the overall game is what makes these things enjoyable. I wouldn't want to see the whole game turn (more) into a full-on goof-fest.

I think most people would agree with that, but the problem is that goofiness has become both less suttle and more abundant.

 

[popejubal]

It’s obscure enough that I don’t know what it is, for sure

Not so much obscure as just old.

There are zillions of immersion breaking puns and jokes in DDO. Silly and jokey are nothing new. I’m delighted that there are silly quests and I’m very happy that there are deep, serious quests. There are so many quests to run that if someone doesn’t enjoy one pack, they can just ignore it and play the ones they like.

 

[Sophie The Cat Burglar]

Almost all of our quests trend toward the more serious side, and we've been up-front about these quests being something a bit more light-hearted and different. For those who don't appreciate the more amusing slice of life nature of these quests, we'll be back to more typical adventuring after this.

Your quest writers began walking briskly down the Monty Python path even before Sharn. That's 5 years. Sharn has so much camp it feels like an intentional parity of Film Noir. Feywild is full on nonsense. Dread includes a lot of camp. All Planar eyes quests are full of camp. Even things like Borderlands and Saltmarsh include a fair dose of camp.

I cannot think of a single quest of the last 5 years that feels gritty and real. Some of the Sharn quests did try.

This game is currently a full on mockery of the heroic fantasy genre. Please pull the pendulum back to center.

 

[Griglok (Karatemack)]

Your quest writers began walking briskly down the Monty Python path even before Sharn. That's 5 years. Sharn has so much camp it feels like an intentional parity of Film Noir. Feywild is full on nonsense. Dread includes a lot of camp. All Planar eyes quests are full of camp. Even things like Borderlands and Saltmarsh include a fair dose of camp.

For the most part, the only part of the quests that feels overly "campy" to me are the quest titles. And that's OK! I actually like that the titles of the quest (which by their nature already break the 4th wall) should include a fair dose of camp.

I cannot think of a single quest of the last 5 years that feels gritty and real. Some of the Sharn quests did try.

This perspective I can appreciate. I would just point out that gritty <> real. In a world of magic, especially given that we're dealing with gods and ancient magical artifacts, the quirk is part of the immersion. There are many narrative genres, and some translate better to an MMO than others.

This game is currently a full on mockery of the heroic fantasy genre. Please pull the pendulum back to center.

I think this goes too far. DnD has always catered to both High Fantasy (the heroes journey) and Sword and Sorcery sub-genres since it's inception. Saying you want more heroic fantasy adventures is fair enough, but sword and sorcery quests are equally valid in any game based on DnD.

 

[Scrag]

Not so much obscure as just old.

There are zillions of immersion breaking puns and jokes in DDO. Silly and jokey are nothing new. I’m delighted that there are silly quests and I’m very happy that there are deep, serious quests. There are so many quests to run that if someone doesn’t enjoy one pack, they can just ignore it and play the ones they like.

I did not even know this was the reference. It was _something_ but I didn't know what.

 

[Scrag]

I cannot think of a single quest of the last 5 years that feels gritty and real. Some of the Sharn quests did try.

The soul splitter arc is pretty gruesome.

 

[Saaluta]

I am all for puns and off the wall references that can be woven seamlessly into the fantasy, D&D setting but there is a line that should not be crossed.

It is like crossing Texas Chainsaw Massacre with a My Little Pony movie. It is just wrong on so many levels.

I would probably watch that movie...after all, I watch the spoof type movies with much more enjoyment than the blood and gore versions

Saal

 

[Orchidblossomwasgutted]

but what if that is the game others want to play?

as spock says: the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one

Yea, keep tellin yourself that, bud.

 

[Oliphant]

If you can't tell the difference between an obscure clever pun and blatant writer self-inserts of their contemporary first world problems I don't know what to tell you.

You referring to a Mentos the Freshmaker reference?? Its not obscure and not a first world problem unless you bring diet coke into this.

 

[VinoeWhines]

How long are the previews gonna be on or revisited?
Can this update include a way in quest to earn a Lesser Racial TR tome, or a code to unlock it in the ddo store.

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

Can you make one of the bad guys a Gordon Ramsay type please?

For replayability this would be a big win, as I'd never tire of smacking that mob!

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

I feel like this would be a dangerous google search.

Don't they have ponies in Texas then?

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

I've got zero problem with adding some humourously themed quests to the game from time to time. Funny is highly subjective, and not everyone needs to find every quest fun. I have my own list of quests I hate. I'm sure most do. There are more than enough quests in the game to avoid those we don't like (sagas and favour accepted).

So anyway what about letting my barb loose on that Chef "Rotten Gamesy", or whatever..?