Unholy Avatar, what makes it work?

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Xavrin

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I'm currently a negative based Alchemist with a splash of Wizard to make me undead and healed by all my spells, saw Unholy Avatar in Pale Master, and thought I could get it to work with my Alchemist spells somehow, but it doesn't seem to proc with any Alchemist negative energy spell, and doesn't seem to work with death aura. Does it have to be direct damage like Negative Energy Burst or something?
Straight up looks like I took a 4th level of wizard for nothing, which sucks.

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After picking up the SLA's for Pale Master, it does appear that alchemist spells just dont work at all. The SLA's from PM work, and strip their immunity, but it doesn't allow alchemist spells to bypass, even though it just says it strips their immunity for 30 seconds.
 
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Zounder

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Xavrin said:
I'm currently a negative based Alchemist with a splash of Wizard to make me undead and healed by all my spells, saw Unholy Avatar in Pale Master, and thought I could get it to work with my Alchemist spells somehow, but it doesn't seem to proc with any Alchemist negative energy spell, and doesn't seem to work with death aura. Does it have to be direct damage like Negative Energy Burst or something?
Straight up looks like I took a 4th level of wizard for nothing, which sucks.

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After picking up the SLA's for Pale Master, it does appear that alchemist spells just dont work at all. The SLA's from PM work, and strip their immunity, but it doesn't allow alchemist spells to bypass, even though it just says it strips their immunity for 30 seconds.
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Yep -- confirmed that this currently doesn't work. Negative Energy Burst is the only thing that I found that makes it work, which is kinda lame because you end up needing a level 8 wizard (which I am), so I'm 8 wiz, 12 alchy, but I gotta say leveling that character split was unpleasant. Currently I'm level 17, so: 8 wiz, 9 alchy, and now it's really kind of nice: I put a ton of points in pale master and Apothecary trees, and all the spell crit negatives are stacking up very nicely.

The low-point of the current situation is constructs -- can't easily harm them. Undead I first hit with negative energy burst, and then my negative pots do wonders. But I don't think I'll be doing that combination again in the future though.

I didn't think this build through very carefully from the start and took 8 wizard, and then switched to alchy... If I do something like this again I'll likely do more alchy to start. I'll also be playing with combining Archmage tree with Bombardier & multivial this life (once I hit 20) to compare / contrast. I'm on the fence.

If there is another wizard spell that does AOE negative damage that ties in with unholy avatar that is lower level than 8 wiz, please lemme know. From looks of it, lesser death aura / death aura DO NOT trigger the effect as far as I can see.
 
Leesun

Leesun

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My PM uses either DI dragon breath (shadow dragon bloodline) for aoe or enervation sla from AM to get it to trigger. First hit, or tic for enervation, heals, but then negative starts to deal damage. Hope this helps.
 
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Aelastiar

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Something to keep in mind as well, is that chill touch can trigger unholy avatar without first healing the mob; useful sometimes as the healing from your first hit of negative damage won't be reduced in higher reaper and you don't want to heal them to full before nuking them down with other people in the party.
 
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