Stealth changes to quests

[J1NG]

Lots of quests need the amber temple "just get on with it!(skip dialogue" option. Or at the very least, a jeets-like option where you only have to deal with it once per character, ever.

Agree. However, I think one reason they can't or won't do anything about it, is because Eberron creator Keith Baker voiced it and there might be requirements to keep that cinematic because of it. Unsure. But it certainly wouldn't be surprising if so.

An accelerate option where the cinematic still plays as normal but the quest progresses however, might be an option. Akin to listening to Hyrsam and Vecna talk in The Icemount Curse, and Elminster in Beyond the Rift. It (the cinematic) still rolls on whilst you go ahead.

J1NG

 

[Mobius]

If they start fixing the quest, they could fix all its wrong things and not just the shrines

But the shrine thing is very easy. Moving one has to take about half a minute.

In theory, you are probably 100% correct. But this is DDO, so the reality is probably closer to:

ERROR: The rest shrine is blocked by the rest shrine.

 

[Falkor]

I'd like to see rez shrines added to the end of all raids.

baba's is one that needs it. I'm sure there are a few more of the older ones that could use this upgrade.

 

[Xgya]

Lots of quests need the amber temple "just get on with it!(skip dialogue" option. Or at the very least, a jeets-like option where you only have to deal with it once per character, ever.

Man, can you imagine just how much faster some of those quests would be?

No more waiting on Elminster.
No more wondering why the Haste spell doesn't work on Cyan...

 

[Svirfneblin]

We really could use options to skip long dialogues there are several we would like to skip.

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[Desstorm]

It's like any construction work. Takes no time to build but you need to form a planning committee, run environmental studies, get building permits, hire Kobold union workers, get an inspector to verify the new shrine is up to code, and then you can reopen the quest.

Ssg just told me there is an endangered species of millipede found between the stones of the building. So no building permit will be issued

 

[Lazuli]

Ssg just told me there is an endangered species of millipede found between the stones of the building. So no building permit will be issued

It's not possible! Bugs are not endangered in this game for sure!

 

[Bjond]

Since SSG has resources to silently change Lord of Blades pre-raid geometry after 12 years, it's long overdue to move one of the three shrines at the end of Just Business to the midpoint. Completing 85% of the quest without a shrine then choking on three at the end is the biggest player gripe with that quest. If there wasn't a requirement to complete this quest before moving on to Part 2 of the Sharn chain, I'd skip it every single life.

I'm curious about LOB changes -- not run it in a bit. What happened? (Hmm, unless by "pre-raid" you mean the L19 heroic quests, which I'm not sure if I've ever run and certainly wouldn't notice changes).

And the stupid gather mechanic when peeps jump in n afk

IMHO, leader needs punt ability at any time during a quest. It's easy to identify bad leaders that punt for specious reasons and never join their groups again. It's impossible to fix a troll without handing the troll a win by forcing the group to disband and reform.

This is particularly important when it comes to raiding, where a malicious troll can scale their annoyance-power by 11.

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BTW, on the Just Business scene topic, I detest and abhor cut-scenes in games. When I want to WATCH a movie, I won't be PLAYING a game. I did like the Bond-homage the first time because it was a little surprising for DDO to have one and because it was cleverly done. But waiting every time gets pretty old.

The singular DDO feature I like most is the voice-delivery for it's stories instead of cut-scenes precisely because it does not waste my time or force me to choose between quest or story. I get both AND speed; ie. permits simultaneous questing + story.

I would certainly approve of DDO doing their house-cleaning on Just Business right in front of us.

 

[Ying]

So they want a juicy commission to speed things up?

It's called an "expedite fee".

 

[Ying]

I'm curious about LOB changes -- not run it in a bit. What happened?

In the room with Toven's image, behind the golem, there was an area you could jump up and perch from. There's no longer a perch. It's not like it was impactful in any way. That fight is not challenging even in reaper. It's a head scratcher why that part of the pre-raid would get changed **12 years** after it's release -- and nothing was in the release notes about it.

 

[Drunken.dx]

I'm for some qol changes in just business.

I would not mind lenghty cutscene if quest was optional, but it's not if you want access to second part of chain.

I understand requirement from story point of view but having to do it life after life to get access to fun part of saga is annoying.

 

[Mesmerin]

There used to be a handy perch spot in search and rescue past the initial harpies but that's gone now.

 

[mbartol]

It probably wouldn’t be as bad sitting through a cut scene like in Just Business so much if timers stopped ticking down during the forced wait period.

I pretty much just stockpile any pots I ever earn because I hate the feeling that I need to rush through content. It ends up making the leveling process a bit slower (especially running solo) but more enjoyable.

 

[Bjond]

there was an area you could jump up and perch

There used to be a handy perch spot in search and rescue past the initial harpies but that's gone now.

I am sensing a theme. House of Pain lost it's rat perch. 'Dunno when, since I've not been playing for a few months, but it was gone the other day.

 

[Ellisaria]

I'd like to see rez shrines added to the end of all raids.

baba's is one that needs it. I'm sure there are a few more of the older ones that could use this upgrade.

+ clearing all death timers once the raid completes!

 

[GrayJedi AntiProPaladin]

so what I don't quite understand about the shrines is why the monsters construct them in the dungeons, quests for Players Characters to use them...but the monsters, NPCs don't use them? or who put them there?
well, suppose some questions are better left unanswered....

 

[nenetteblackmoor]

so what I don't quite understand about the shrines is why the monsters construct them in the dungeons, quests for Players Characters to use them...but the monsters, NPCs don't use them? or who put them there?
well, suppose some questions are better left unanswered....

The answer is simple, it was already used.

 

[Lazuli]

so what I don't quite understand about the shrines is why the monsters construct them in the dungeons, quests for Players Characters to use them...but the monsters, NPCs don't use them? or who put them there?
well, suppose some questions are better left unanswered....

I don't think anyone builds most of the shrines. They have always given me the impression of being a representation of the camps that adventurers in pnp set up to rest and heal in quiet places, as far as possible from danger (something not always easy in the middle of a dungeon)

I think they are a metaphor rather than a real thing, adapted to the hurried life of a mmo. At least, I get the impression that's what they were like in the beginning. Over time, in some quests they are treated as something very physical so idk.

 

[Ahpuch]

I don't think anyone builds most of the shrines. They have always given me the impression of being a representation of the camps that adventurers in pnp set up to rest and heal in quiet places, as far as possible from danger (something not always easy in the middle of a dungeon)

I think they are a metaphor rather than a real thing, adapted to the hurried life of a mmo. At least, I get the impression that's what they were like in the beginning.

This was my take on it as well. Didn't really explain the rez shrine though. Never built a camp for the night and had my party start popping back to life. But mmo gonna mmo.

Over time, in some quests they are treated as something very physical so idk.

I sometimes, just sometimes, get the feeling that the devs are inconsistent and don't have a plan that they stick to over the long run.

/s

 

[Br4d]

In the room with Toven's image, behind the golem, there was an area you could jump up and perch from. There's no longer a perch. It's not like it was impactful in any way. That fight is not challenging even in reaper. It's a head scratcher why that part of the pre-raid would get changed **12 years** after it's release -- and nothing was in the release notes about it.

SSG has been finding perches and removing them since 2000 in Asheron's Call. It's part of their mission statement.