DDO and end of life for Windows 10
- Thread starter CherryBomb
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Despite all of the warnings about support ending, for certain categories of vulnerabilities, Microsoft will continue to issue patches for expired products. You will see this done to help prevent certain botnets or high-profile vulnerabilities which are known to be actively exploited on a large scale. You can't rely on this for every newly discovered bug though, and as the active percentage of Windows 10 installations diminishes, you'll see Microsoft's interest & patching support wane accordingly.
Looking at risk vs exposure, if the PC is used for anything outside of DDO, you're opening yourself up. Others have alluded to not using e-mail or web browsing on an unpatched system, which is good practice, but you'll still be exposed to some degree. At that point, you're basically relying on flying underneath the radar for protection. I'd advise using a 3rd-party product for added security.
Looking at risk vs exposure, if the PC is used for anything outside of DDO, you're opening yourself up. Others have alluded to not using e-mail or web browsing on an unpatched system, which is good practice, but you'll still be exposed to some degree. At that point, you're basically relying on flying underneath the radar for protection. I'd advise using a 3rd-party product for added security.
Buddha5440
Well-known member
I ran Win XP on my old system for years after its EoL date. Never had an issue. Why??? Because Win XP was simply better than Vista/7/8.
^^^ This. You can get an AM4 Mobo with a 3000 series Ryzen and 32 GB RAM for around $200. Or go with a Ryzen G series (5600G w/ Mobo still ~$200).
Reaped and Ravaged
Well-known member
Using windows task manager to check and end malicious processes does not require a new computer
erethizon1
Well-known member
I still play DDO on a laptop running Windows 7. That was the computer I bought to run DDO and I have never upgraded it.
kmoustakas
Scourge of Xaos
I'm still running this on win7 and it's fine, except all the programs saying they will stop working in 0 days.
Mindos
CHAOTIC EVIL
When these "countdowns" first started appearing, I wondered if they would go negative.
Natashaelle
Time Bandit
I upgraded to the new W11 release recently, and that's not really true in that scenario. What I've found is you need to manually do it every time a new one comes out, instead of Windows Update just doing it automatically. Next one is probably going to be 24H2, for early 2025 IMO as they usually miss their projected release windows.
Besides, if you're running the previous W11 version, then the new one has very likely already been installed, but in an inactive state. There's a KB you can use to activate it, takes a couple of minutes tops. They seem to have given up trying to actively punish people for running it on supposedly "incompatible hardware".
The "may cause your computer not to boot" warning is just legalese for "if you attempt this and mess up, it's your fault not ours". They've been saying the same thing since the era of XP or earlier.
With some motherboard resets my computer is compatible, but I simply do not want to reinstall Windows from A to Z.
Xaxx
Well-known member
*looks at all the linux based hand helds and emu devices running around then looks back at quote*
with a littlle bit of tinkering I had ddo running on my 1st gen steam deck, and for ***** and giggles i got it running on the odyn when it came out, its harder to get it running ddo running on an android platform than steam os lin base.....
getting ddo to fire up on one of the windows based hand helds went beyond the pale and i gave the **** up...
yeah yeah i know steam os and lin blah blah... either waay if you REALLY wanna play ddo and you can get creative on working with shortcuts and imputs you can play this game on a 15 yo clraptop on windows 2k even today
Toblakai
Well-known member
I got DDO running on my steam deck also... Thought I would use it while travelling. Currently it is collecting dust haven't used it since the first month I got it. For most people linux is too much effort. I use linux everyday for work, and I have zero desire to attempt to get my games running on it.
FaceDancer
Olde Wurm
No, but if you have malicious processes on your system, I would think a wipe and reinstall would be in order at the minimum.
True. There's the matter of being able to recognize a rogue process, and not every user gets down to that nuts & bolts level. And if your average legitimate process like explorer.exe has had malicious code injected into it, killing it & re-starting it isn't going to accomplish a whole lot.
FaceDancer
Olde Wurm
Not that I have tried it but... I would think the ideal way to run any older games would be to fire up a VM with XP or Win7 on it and see how it goes.
erethizon1
Well-known member
In my case the reason I don't upgrade is simple, the DDO Client can't handle it. I don't want to follow the complicated instructions to install the game on a new system so I will wait to upgrade until DDO is properly patched so that all I have to do is download the client and it will install correctly. I have a much newer gaming laptop currently running Windows 10 (and ready to be upgraded to Windows 11 whenever I allow it), so all I need is for game to be ready for such technology so that the game will install as easily as it does on the old Windows 7 laptop.
Teh_Troll
Well-known member
What parallel universe are you talking about?
Just had an HD crash and rebuilt my main desktop to W11. You know what I had to do to get DDO working? I installed it and clicked the button!
FaceDancer
Olde Wurm
Just to reassert what Teh_Toll said, I'm running on Win 11 with DDO and there are no issues (YMMV...)
rabidfox
The People's Champion
This main issues with Windows 10 or 11 is when DDO for whatever reason doesn't always install the various library files needed, so sometimes one has to manually install DirectX 9 or .NET files (https://forums.ddo.com/index.php?th...-as-crowdsourced-by-many-players-advice.1666/ pretty much covers those issues).
erethizon1
Well-known member
Interesting. I tried adding DDO and LOTRO to my windows 10 laptop a few months ago and both had huge issues that required looking into the forums. Is this a Windows 10 only problem? Is it working great for windows 11? That may be just the motivation I need to upgrade to windows 11.