nenetteblackmoor
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It's written here, please tell me how to push 500 MP sustainably.
Sustainably 500...
Epic Levels | 60 |
Legendary Levels | 12 |
Tome | 4 |
Reaper | 24 |
Filigree | 80 |
SWF feats | 10 |
Enhancement (should be 12, but 12 doesn't drop) | 10 |
Profane | 15 |
Artifact | 15 |
Destiny Cores | 55 |
Sanctified Fervor | 25 |
KOTC | 20 |
Righteous Command | 21 |
Scion | 20 |
Reaper Rings+Neck | 12 |
Reaper Bonuses on Items (not quite realistic, but these are maxed numbers) | 24 |
Mythic | 18 |
standing | 425 |
There was a lot of disingenuous grandstanding in that thread, the people throwing out the "achievable" standing MPs were not trying to help anyone or create realistic benchmarks.That number was a rough guess at the maxed out version, here are a few more accurate numbers (assuming pure 20 pally):
Epic Levels | 60 |
Legendary Levels | 12 |
Tome | 4 |
Reaper | 24 |
Filigree | 95 |
Combat Style | 10 |
Enhancement | 10 |
Profane | 15 |
Artifact | 15 |
Destiny Cores | 55 |
Sanctified Fervor | 25 |
KOTC | 20 |
Righteous Command | 15 |
Arborea | 20 |
Reaper Rings+Neck | 12 |
Reaper Bonuses on Items (not realistic, but this is a joke breakdown) | 42 |
Mythic (not realistic, but this is a joke breakdown) | 22 |
VKF T4 Single Dagger (This is why SWF was specified) | 20 |
15 MP Pot | 15 |
Exalted Smite 10 MP 10s | 10 |
Standing | 501 |
Prowess Swap | 50 |
Half Orcish Rage | 40 |
Enhanced Bloodrage | 10 |
Ascendancy | 75 |
Action Hero | 30 |
Onatar | 10 |
T4 Fatesinger for giggles | 10 |
Totaled Burst (This is a joke please don't ever reference this as anything else) | 726 |
It's interesting information. Can we see proof that Power Reaper bonus can stack with crafted rare Reaper bonuses? If it's correct it must be added to wiki.The rare reaper boosts can be added to existing mythic/reaper items and stack
Hey, I didn’t say that SWF has dramatically better MP than TWF, just that it has slightly higher typically and can “push 500” sustainably. My only point was that pally is not way behind DPS wise relative to other melee. The original thought comes from a in-game friend trying swf pally and talking abt how it went. The breakdown above is what I was referring to-with everything maxed out, you can end up standing in the mid 400s, which with ascendency capstone gets you to 500/just under reasonably sustainably. I know abt the Vistani bonuses, but wasn’t trying to discuss the specific gimmick build (also why my reaper/mythic/fil numbers are slightly lower, because they account for crafted gear and an actually tolerable fil setup). Thanks for the full gimmick breakdown though, that is amusing!The fact that you specifically called out SWF Pally but didn't include the one thing that sets SWF over TWF tells me that you were just repeating what you saw mentioned on discord without understanding
The answer is yes on this one - as the relevant page on Reaper bonuses puts it, "All reaper bonuses fully stack."It's interesting information. Can we see proof that Power Reaper bonus can stack with crafted rare Reaper bonuses? If it's correct it must be added to wiki.
Oh the post you were replying to in that thread was definitely way off base lol. I just saw a lot of what I consider unrealistic standing MP stats getting thrown around in there. You actually did the work with showing the breakdown but you used maxed reaper/mythic bonuses even with excluding 2 or 3 crafted items, enhanced bloodrage proc which is iffy in raids and even with including a 15 MP pot you were 46mp short of 500mp after correcting for righteous command.Hey, I didn’t say that SWF has dramatically better MP than TWF, just that it has slightly higher typically and can “push 500” sustainably. My only point was that pally is not way behind DPS wise relative to other melee.
I think this was reffering to stacking reaper+3 with reaper +5 on the same item, in which case the answer is no. (unless there's a bug that allows for it) But yes, reaper bonuses from different items stack.The answer is yes on this one - as the relevant page on Reaper bonuses puts it, "All reaper bonuses fully stack."
Getting perfect mythic+reaper boosts is simply unrealistic for all raid items in a gear set. Hell, I don't even have a single perfectly boosted raid item and I've completed 1k+ reaper raids. And if you use Gem of Many Facets in your gearset, there's no way to get mythic and reaper bonuses.Maxed mythic boosts come from belt, gloves, goggles, 2 rings, trinket so 6*3 plus 4 on weapon for total of 22.
Maxed +3 reaper boosts can be found on all items, so 14 items when SWF with orb. 14*3 = 42
Well, english not my native, possible i don't wright enough clear. According Hammatimes post, you can add crafted Reaper bonus to item with already existing power Reaper bonus, as Monkey Archer point. I ask about this possibility only. 8)The answer is yes on this one - as the relevant page on Reaper bonuses puts it, "All reaper bonuses fully stack."
I think it enough realistic for helmet because crafted bonus, for shields/orbs from LMA/LLoB and fully possible for Sphere of Waves (if count it as raid item, lol).Getting perfect mythic+reaper boosts is simply unrealistic for all raid items in a gear set. Hell, I don't even have a single perfectly boosted raid item and I've completed 1k+ reaper raids. And if you use Gem of Many Facets in your gearset, there's no way to get mythic and reaper bonuses.
Thanks for the contribution Ying, since you seemed to miss my multiple disclaimers I tried to double the font size but the max appears to be size 26 so I also bolded them. Let me know if this helps!Getting perfect mythic+reaper boosts is simply unrealistic for all raid items in a gear set. Hell, I don't even have a single perfectly boosted raid item and I've completed 1k+ reaper raids. And if you use Gem of Many Facets in your gearset, there's no way to get mythic and reaper bonuses.
Ah, I see. Yes, this can also happen, rare though it is, and the two bonuses on the same item will stack with each other.Well, english not my native, possible i don't wright enough clear. According Hammatimes post, you can add crafted Reaper bonus to item with already existing power Reaper bonus, as Monkey Archer point. I ask about this possibility only. 8)