Mary's Damage Lord Build

[Mary]

Mary's Damage Lord Build

Very strong, black dragon line with x3 unique CCs, extra dmg vs helpless, UMD and access to casting scrolls/wands - extremely first life/solo friendly. Hardcore ready! We level up in Dragon Lord/Vistani/Feydark utilizing 3 ccs and vistani for tier 4 neg energy immunity+celerity, once we hit lvl 23 we grab knockdown immunity from Stal Def, drop vistani, and grab neg en immune+celerity from shadowdancer tier 3 shadowstriker

Classes: 20 Dragon Lord, 10 Epic, 2 Legendary
Race: Drow (flavor, you can do any race, it is a CHA build and my gear uses spell resist)
Alignment: Neutral

Str:· · 8
Dex:· 10
Con:· 14
Int:· · 12
Wis:· ·8
*Cha:· 20

Immunities: Sleep, Magic Missiles, Fear, Slippery Surfaces, Falling Dmg, Most Knockdown, Magic Missiles, Energy Drain
Displacement 50%

Class and Feat
1 · · Dragon Lord(1)· ·Standard: Magical Training
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Minor Draconic Aura: Thraxata's Instinct
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(4), Perform(2), Tumble(2), Use Magic Device(4)
2 · · Dragon Lord(2)· ·Fighter Bonus: Single Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
3 · · Dragon Lord(3)· ·Standard: Sap
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
4 · · Dragon Lord(4)· ·Fighter Bonus: Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
5 · · Dragon Lord(5)· ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
6 · · Dragon Lord(6)· ·Standard: Power Critical
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Improved Single Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
7 · · Dragon Lord(7)· ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
8 · · Dragon Lord(8)· ·Major Draconic Aura: Velah's Fury
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
9 · · Dragon Lord(9)· ·Standard: Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
10· · Dragon Lord(10) ·Fighter Bonus: Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
11· · Dragon Lord(11) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Jump(1), Use Magic Device(1)
12· · Dragon Lord(12) ·Standard: Greater Single Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Offhand Versatility
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Use Magic Device(1)
13· · Dragon Lord(13) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Use Magic Device(1)
14· · Dragon Lord(14) ·Fighter Bonus: Greater Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Use Magic Device(1)
15· · Dragon Lord(15) ·Standard: Tactical Mastery
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Use Magic Device(1)
16· · Dragon Lord(16) ·Superior Draconic Aura: The Truthful One's Might
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Use Magic Device(1)
17· · Dragon Lord(17) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Use Magic Device(1)
18· · Dragon Lord(18) ·Standard: Force of Personality
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Tactical Supremacy
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Use Magic Device(1)
19· · Dragon Lord(19) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Use Magic Device(1)
20· · Dragon Lord(20) ·Fighter Bonus: Tactical Combatant
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Intimidate(3)
21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical
22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Embolden Spell
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Doublestrike
26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Tactical Training
28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Elusive Target
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Reflexes
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of the Astral Plane
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Crush Weakness
32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Charisma: +1 Level up


Enhancements

Drow 7
Core1 Spell Resistance I
Core2 Ability I: +1 Charisma
Core3 Spell Resistance II
Core4 Ability II: +1 Charisma
Core5 Spell Resistance III

Dragon Lord 41
Core1 Draconic Soul: Soul of the Black Dragon
Tier1 Battlefield Tactician I
Tier1 Dragon's Protection I
Tier1 Martial Superiority: Dragon Lord: Martial Superiority: Strike Twice - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Unbreakable Will - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Action Boost: Action Boost: Haste - 3 Ranks
Core2 Draconic Arms
Tier2 Battlefield Tactician II
Tier2 Dragon's Protection II
Tier2 Dragonslayer
Core3 Reckless Devotion
Tier3 Dragon's Protection III
Tier3 Battlefield Tactician III
Tier3 Dragon's Roar
Tier3 Ability Score I: +1 Charisma
Tier3 Might or Outburst: Draconic Conviction - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Untouchable Soul
Tier4 Battlefield Tactician IV
Tier4 Dragon's Protection IV
Tier4 Ability Score II: +1 Charisma
Core4 Conqueror's Command
Core5 Dragon's Defense
Tier5 Conqueror - 2 Ranks
Tier5 Flight of Kings
Tier5 Improved Dragon's Roar
Tier5 Tactical Commander
Tier5 Soul Scales
Core6 Sunder Soul

Stalwart Defender 24 (we are in this tree for knockdown immunity; we jump in @ lvl 23 switching from vistani once we have access to shadowdancer Tier3 Shadowstriker, that replaces vistani's +5%doublestrike/neg energy immunity)
Core1 Toughness
Tier1 Stalwart Defensive Mastery - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Improved Stalwart Defense I: Durable Defense - 3 Ranks
Core2 Stalwart Defense
Tier2 Improved Stalwart Defense II: Resilient Defense - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Instinctive Defense - 3 Ranks
Core3 Overbalance
Tier3 Ability I: +1 Constitution
Tier3 Greater Stalwart Defense I: Hardy Defense - 3 Ranks
Core4 Stand Fast
Tier4 Ability II: +1 Constitution
Tier4 Swift Defense

Feydark Illusionist 11
Core1 Find Familiar: Illusory Sprite
Tier1 Illusory Weaponry
Tier1 Familiar's Flourish I
Tier2 You've Got My Back
Core2 Ability I: Charisma
Tier2 Reality Bulwark - 1 Ranks
Core3 Greater Color Spray

Skills
Balance 11
Intimidate 11
Jump 5
Perform 1
Tumble 1
UMD 11

Epic Destinies

Shadowdancer 37 (the shadowdancer mantle unironically is the best mantle for us for it grants us major defensives boosting our survivability being up close as a melee, also boosting our helpless damage for when we roar or color spray or sap)
Core1 The Darkest Luck I
Tier1 Cover of Darkness - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Stealthy - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Lithe - 3 Ranks
Core2 Step Through Shadows
Tier2 Shadowform
Tier3 Spell Focus: Illusion - 3 Ranks
Core3 The Darkest Luck
Tier3 Shadowcaster: Shadowstriker
Tier3 Grim Precision - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Depths of Darkness
Core4 Cut to the Soul
Tier4 Dark Mercy - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Pierce the Gloom - 2 Ranks
Tier5 Just a Taste
Tier5 Unholy Feeding
Tier5 Greater Shadowdancer Spell Focus - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Shadow Mastery

Fury of the Wild 22 (Quick Cuts is our epic strike that allows us on a SWF to do a whirlwind 360 attack /6 seconds)
Core1 Die Hard
Tier1 Strength or Swiftness: Quick Cutter - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Savage Take Down - 3 Ranks
Core2 Die Harder
Tier2 Primal Scream
Core3 Die Harderest
Tier3 Embrace the Pain - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Fury Selector: Spirit of the Beast - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Wild Weapons: Doublestrike - 3 Ranks
Tier4 The Voice of Fury

Unyielding Sentinel 6
Core1 Unyielding
Tier1 Divine Energy Resistance
Tier1 Brace for Impact - 2 Ranks
Tier2 Renewal (our self heal HOT)

 

[Hobgoblin]

how useful is sap?

 

[mikarddo]

Do you just use the summoned weapons?

 

[I dont Like gimps]

wondering if it isnt smorter to just go down the rabbit hole and go THF so stunning blow etc give even Moar cc
what even is dmg at this Point

 

[Mary]

Sap is really good in heroics; Sap has no save, so you can sap a champ and leave it while you burn down other stuff etc, its a very good cc to lock down 1 mob.
In epics I may not need it anymore so I might lesser sap away for either tactics or focus or specialization once I hit 20;

Also, originally i thought Id use orchid blossom as my epic strike, but quick cuts from fury is very strong, so I changed my build slightly dropping shadowdancer and picked up the epic strike from Fury. Really strong so far in low epics. Using GMoF mantle for knockdown immunity + other stuff, and the HOT from US.

 

[Mary]

Do you just use the summoned weapons?

Yeah, from 1-32 will use the conjured feysword. If I had the fey raid shortsword I'd use it bc I could slot it with filigrees etc and a stone - I may craft a dinosaur shortsword with ice horn for the freeze etc. but since this is just a first impressions build I'm still ironing things out - but so far the short sword bursts fine my dmg in heroics was massive - in epics with quick cuts its been massive too.

 

[Aerendil]

To be fair, a blind, one-armed character could do just fine 1-20 with FI. It's just that strong. Short sword solves all incorporeal and ooze-related problems for life, and GCS just trivializes 90% of content. Even Strimtom as a joke, levelled a Charisma Ranger using FI, and flew through the content. I'm not sure it's a good benchmark for how powerful DL is though.

I'm also curious to see how THF, TWF, or SWF with bastard sword / Daxe builds go with Dragonlord, as well as various splashes.

 

[RayRay Ramone]

To be fair, a blind, one-armed character could do just fine 1-20 with FI. It's just that strong. Short sword solves all incorporeal and ooze-related problems for life, and GCS just trivializes 90% of content. Even Strimtom as a joke, levelled a Charisma Ranger using FI, and flew through the content. I'm not sure it's a good benchmark for how powerful DL is though.

I'm also curious to see how THF, TWF, or SWF with bastard sword / Daxe builds go with Dragonlord, as well as various splashes.

I'm currently running a pure DL (lvl 17 right now) using b-sword SWF. Crit is 17-20/x4. Because of all the Ravager tree bugs, I'm only running the improved power attack enhancement from that tree and have prioritized the DL and Sentinel trees.

Performance is roughly on par with a regular fighter, and if they fix the ravager tree, it will probably dps somewhere between fighter and barbie.

The big difference is the Dragon Roar enhancement. It works on almost every mob. My tactic is to run up to a mob group, hit roar and then kill them all before they come out of daze or cower. If I was THF, I'm sure my damage output would be higher, but haven't checked that on this life.

And the displacement enhancement is insane.

 

[I dont Like gimps]

, it will probably dps somewhere between fighter and barbie.

Its defo gonna be worse than fighter without a doubt dps wise? No Kensei no deeps. It wouldnt make sense if DL had kensei like deeps cuz its more of a supportive fighter

 

[mikarddo]

Its defo gonna be worse than fighter without a doubt dps wise? No Kensei no deeps. It wouldnt make sense if DL had kensei like deeps cuz its more of a supportive fighter

That may depend on the situation. DL has the ability to stun for helpless damage or many different types of mobs with an added +20% helpless damage. Depending on the situation that may be more dps than Kensai.

DL also gets the str trance for more dps and has full +2 crit mult.

 

[I dont Like gimps]

That may depend on the situation. DL has the ability to stun for helpless damage or many different types of mobs with an added +20% helpless damage. Depending on the situation that may be more dps than Kensai.

DL also gets the str trance for more dps and has full +2 crit mult.

okay fair for r10´questing it might come close (idk how high u can Push Str trance lol)

 

[Hegemon]

Sorry for the noob question... As a CHA-based character, what feat/enhancement gives you the CHA bonuses to hit and damage?

Edit: OK, I see it comes from the illusory weapon in FI. But the conjured weapon is a short sword... Do the Vistani skills work for short swords?

 

[glass_jaws]

Sorry for the noob question... As a CHA-based character, what feat/enhancement gives you the CHA bonuses to hit and damage?

Edit: OK, I see it comes from the illusory weapon in FI. But the conjured weapon is a short sword... Do the Vistani skills work for short swords?

There are a ton of "generic things" in Vistani, like the PRR/MRR, haste boost, doublestrike/doubleshot, etc that work for anyone. It is a very solid addition to a lot of melee builds.

 

[Silvorn]

Playing this as a human with my son playing a dark hunter dagger build. So far we just pretty much mow through everything we run. CC stuff and most of it is dead before it can do anything. Early levels damage seemed pretty slow due to no AOE.

 

[Scrag]

I have done variations on this build a few times now based on feat selection, not on fey weapon. It seems a fairly standard high success ratio option, sprinkle with flavor.

 

[Scrag]

Sorry for the noob question... As a CHA-based character, what feat/enhancement gives you the CHA bonuses to hit and damage?

Edit: OK, I see it comes from the illusory weapon in FI. But the conjured weapon is a short sword... Do the Vistani skills work for short swords?

PDK also gives cha tohit damage as well, plus bonus tactics and damage.

I do this with ignition because that sword is bonkers.

 

[Silvorn]

I skipped sap and grabbed precision instead. Duoing with a character that has AE attacks. Seems to work. Not running high difficulty just doing racial past lives.

 

[Elminster]

Anyone tried DragonLord as a pure tank? Foes that even work or is it vastly inferior to paladina or stalwart fighters?

 

[Scrag]

Anyone tried DragonLord as a pure tank? Foes that even work or is it vastly inferior to paladina or stalwart fighters?

I am. Took improved shield mastery, taking perfect and specialty shield mastery, tactics, heavy armor mastery, and thf -> greater + perfect. Right now I am super tanky.

Downside? I don't have that awesome self heal that fighters get. I need a healbot or something. I am sturdy enough to be completely overwhelmed by enemies and fight my way through with pathetic damage. I have high confidence in this long term.

I am heavy in stalwart and 41 in dlord, with a smattering in pdk.

 

[Elminster]

I am. Took improved shield mastery, taking perfect and specialty shield mastery, tactics, heavy armor mastery, and thf -> greater + perfect. Right now I am super tanky.

Downside? I don't have that awesome self heal that fighters get. I need a healbot or something. I am sturdy enough to be completely overwhelmed by enemies and fight my way through with pathetic damage. I have high confidence in this long term.

I am heavy in stalwart and 41 in dlord, with a smattering in pdk.

Interesting. But don't all fighters including DL get Second Wind automatically? or am I misreading how they get sec wind...?

Also, your moves on Epic Destinies? Going all in Leg Dreadnought and sentinel?