Non-proficiency penalties for Orbs

[Yummyinmytummy]

This is probably a really noob question.

I see this on DDO Wiki which doesn't talk about what happens if you're not proficient with orbs.

• For armor, receive zero PRR (see article for details).
• For weapons, you do not receive a +20% to hit. (DDO Forums)
• Applies item's Armor Check Penalty to attack rolls if not proficient with armor or shield. (ACPs apply to skills regardless of proficiency.)
  • Note that an armor or shield with an ACP of 0 can be used without penalty by all characters whether they're proficient with it or not.
    • Mithral/darkwood heavy shield has 0 ACP.
    • Mithral light shield has 0 ACP and 0% ASF.
• Great Crossbows do not get the knock-down on a natural 20.
• Repeating Crossbows (light and heavy) do not "repeat" - just 1 shot/attack.
• 2-handed weapons do not produce glancing blows, nor do bastard swords or Dwarven axes.

I'm just wondering if/when I have the "Not Proficient" notification, am I getting this whole list of penalty?
For example, I am proficient with Dwarven Axe, if I wield an orb which I am not proficient with, am I not able to produce glancing blows?
or does using an orb while not being proficient with orbs just doesn't have any penalty?

Thank you,

 

[FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted]

i never noticed anything bad, ive played tons of toons with unproficient orbs. if I were to guess, something happens that isn't noticeable, but someone can correct me on this

 

[PurpleSerpent]

This is probably a really noob question.

I see this on DDO Wiki which doesn't talk about what happens if you're not proficient with orbs.


I'm just wondering if/when I have the "Not Proficient" notification, am I getting this whole list of penalty?
For example, I am proficient with Dwarven Axe, if I wield an orb which I am not proficient with, am I not able to produce glancing blows?
or does using an orb while not being proficient with orbs just doesn't have any penalty?

Thank you,

As far as I am aware, as they're treated as shields but have no Armor Check Penalty, wielding an orb with which you are not proficient doesn't actually have any negative effects. It certainly won't have any effect on your main hand weapon.

(I've updated the page to clarify this - I believe that section hasn't been updated since Orbs were added in U41.)

 

[Yummyinmytummy]

As far as I am aware, as they're treated as shields but have no Armor Check Penalty, wielding an orb with which you are not proficient doesn't actually have any negative effects. It certainly won't have any effect on your main hand weapon.

(I've updated the page to clarify this - I believe that section hasn't been updated since Orbs were added in U41.)

That is awesome!
I see your update on DDO Wiki