Arkat
Founder & Super Hero
There are other things here that are WAY more controversial than that.The most controversial thing here is that you should quit DDO and finally find a girlfriend...
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Are the Dice Rigged?
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DDO Gaming
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I think I'm being unfair elminister so I'll give provide a science engineering explanation.
digital 1 and 0 (the basis of all things electronic including your ability to see themindless nonsense words of wisdom you post on you rmonitor.
they are also comparable to atoms. Thus digital technology hasn't yet evolved to the point we can create the digital materials we need to be able to manufacture rigged dice.
digital 1 and 0 (the basis of all things electronic including your ability to see the
they are also comparable to atoms. Thus digital technology hasn't yet evolved to the point we can create the digital materials we need to be able to manufacture rigged dice.
Col Kurtz
Well-known member
my buddies accuse d me tons of times of having loaded 20 siders when I was DM
>I eventually started assigning each player a number and roll for each enemy to see who they attack, to avoid being accused of playing favorites
>I have like 8 diff 20 siders at least, change every roll
>still critted them like madness! ... hadda get rid of special crit table too, so they could keep all their arms and legs
>some people just have the magic touch w the dice
>I eventually started assigning each player a number and roll for each enemy to see who they attack, to avoid being accused of playing favorites
>I have like 8 diff 20 siders at least, change every roll
>still critted them like madness! ... hadda get rid of special crit table too, so they could keep all their arms and legs
>some people just have the magic touch w the dice
DDO Gaming
Well-known member
BTW I'm pretty sure most MSWinX assembler languages offer a random number generator so this entire OP is slightly "alternate reality"
Solarpower
Well-known member
Yeah. He's in Myth Drannor, spreading rumors about how good the loot is !
Lazuli
Well-known member
My players called my black d20 that I use for NPCs "the black die of death," because they joked that that die rolled too well. They often joke that it is rigged, etc. And one day they hid it from me, to continue the joke.my buddies accuse d me tons of times of having loaded 20 siders when I was DM
>I eventually started assigning each player a number and roll for each enemy to see who they attack, to avoid being accused of playing favorites
>I have like 8 diff 20 siders at least, change every roll
>still critted them like madness! ... hadda get rid of special crit table too, so they could keep all their arms and legs
>some people just have the magic touch w the dice
But it was a joke, the players didn't really believe it was rigged, it was just a bit of a joke on the dice that hurt them lol
Eltronin
Kobolds don't matter
Are you sure Earth exists and we aren't all part of some far away aliens Drunken dreams?
Xaerxiessia
Lost in Translation
go loot lightning-split soarwoods and look at how many stellar orbs or crystal decanters you get
Sophie The Cat Burglar
Exotic Items Recovery Specialist
Wow. You people actually look at the dice? I throw the dice then do whatever the heck I feel like doing.
nenetteblackmoor
Well-known member
Sometimes I operate 6 accounts and open chests eight times, and what I always notice is that the drop rate for items drastically decreases after the third time.
I feel like the drop rate decreases when you open a chest three or more times on the same day.
Also, when a new update comes, initially the drop rate is high, but after a while, it decreases.
It's noticeable when farming eight times with multiple accounts.
I feel like the number of times chests are opened might affect the drop rate, similar to an experience bonus.
I feel like the drop rate decreases when you open a chest three or more times on the same day.
Also, when a new update comes, initially the drop rate is high, but after a while, it decreases.
It's noticeable when farming eight times with multiple accounts.
I feel like the number of times chests are opened might affect the drop rate, similar to an experience bonus.
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Solarpower
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It is. It's a well-known Ransack mechanic that lowers your XP & loot if you repeat the same dungeon.
No dice are involved.
Players are penalized for farming? Is this another tactic to force rerolls? I haven't seen this information anywhere; where have they confirmed this?
Xaerxiessia
Lost in Translation
that's not the right way to rig them smoothly :
for a standard randomize function 0.0 < rnd() < 1.0 , it would rather be : rnd() ^ x
to increase chances of highest : x < 1.0
to decrease chances of highest : x > 1.0
Elminster
Well-known member
They are for some strange reason. You can farm out a chest 8 times and then you are forced to wait a week.
nenetteblackmoor
Well-known member
It's a matter of perspective.
Let's assume there's a 35% chance the item will drop.
35 - loot count > 1d100
35 > loot count d100
In this case, the latter would be manipulating the roll.
This is the developer's specialty MAGIC!
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I knew about the waiting a week, thats ransack. But is there confirmation that probability drops with subsequent openings 1-8?
nenetteblackmoor
Well-known member
It hasn't been confirmed or stated anywhere.
I'm sorry, everyone including myself loves conspiracy theories.
When assuming a drop rate of 35% for Elite rank items, opening the chest with six people results in a 92.4581% chance of item drops.
0.65 x 0.65 x 0.65 x 0.65 x 0.65 x 0.65 = 0.075419 %
1 - 0.075419 = 0.924581 %
Probability of consecutive item drops gradually decreases as follows.
0.924581 x 0.924581 x 0.924581 x 0.924581 x 0.924581 x 0.924581 x 0.924581 x 0.924581 = 0.534023203 %
1: 0.924581109 %
2: 0.854850228 %
3: 0.790378372 %
4: 0.730768912 %
5: 0.675655131 %
6: 0.624697971 %
7: 0.577583943 %
8: 0.534023203 %
Probability of consecutive drops decreases steadily, so it's just a misconception that items stop dropping.
People tend to remember unpleasant things for a long time, but they quickly forget about casual happiness.
Even if there's a mistake in the calculation somewhere, please don't nitpick!
rabidfox
The People's Champion
I wouldn't want to calculate the odds of people not nitpicking on the forums.