davidcysero
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how about ruin bug when will it be fixed?This has been fixed internally, and will be in an upcoming patch. Thank you!
how about ruin bug when will it be fixed?This has been fixed internally, and will be in an upcoming patch. Thank you!
It was working on lam1 preview. Shows up in the + tab.Any chance to get the Razorclaw Shifter past life stance fix in for this upcoming release?
Melee Attack Bonus, Melee Damage Bonus, Ranged Attack Bonus, and Ranged Damage Bonus now are tracked in the Details(+) Tab in your character sheet.
Thanks. I forgot to check it on Lam, but it wasn't listed in the bug fixes so figured I would ask.It was working on lam1 preview. Shows up in the + tab.
I agree with everything here, ...however-Just so it's clear to the devs/designers, there is a minority that dislikes the aesthetics of tumbling for movement speed, while the majority of the player base really appreciates what it brings to the table. While most of the players would be very happy if you just left it in the game, I think the majority of them are willing to compromise for the aesthetics argument by replacing it with two things:
- Ability to use tumbles as a quick burst of speed when needed (primarily combat/trap situations) as experimental tumble currently provides.
Charges based cooldowns seems to be the most reasonable and balanced approach for this.
- About 1 recharge per 1~3 seconds with a stock of up to 4~8 should be appropriate.
- A general increase in player speed available to all classes that doesn't lock players into certain classes or combat styles.
Adding 30-100% movement speed available via one or more of the following
- Tumble skill increases movement speed based on skill level
- A low tier enhancement in a universal enhancement tree
- A feat that stacks with other movement increases
- More movement speed item effects
- Having unused tumble stacks increases movement speed (best to avoid due to significant rubber banding issues when a player's movement speed changes)
- A flat increase in base running speed
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- Experimental Tumble Controls have been disabled.
This is true and has been since day one. Let me see if I can explain how tumble works under the hood with some sudo code.The removal of Experimental Tumble controls is ONLY a nerf to Accessibility.
You can literally still do it manually. I imagine it would be incredibly easy to macro.
Everyone forgets they also removed the huge delay at the end of tumble where you couldn't move. That's the actual big change that made tumble useful.This is true and has been since day one. Let me see if I can explain how tumble works under the hood with some sudo code.
DDO uses a key depress state to determine if block is accessible, something along lines like this
if (shift==down){
moveSpeed==0,
block==true,
dodgeRoll==true
}
The problem that this causes is that once the animation for dodge has started if the block key is released moveSpeed == 100 even though the animation is playing. Essentially what that means is that if you press block, move, and release block right away you get a bonus to movement speed equal to the dodge animation distance divided by the animation completion time.
The reason that none of this was a problem before experimental tumble was you couldn't hold the move key and tap block to tumble. You had to repress the move key after every animation cycle which was far, far, more difficult than just taping shift after the animation cycle. If this timing wasn't frame exact you'd have a fraction of a second where you would pause and not move at all which erased all forward movement. In practice you wouldn't get a noticeable speed increase until your tumble was in the 30s or you were using a macro.
If they wanted to fix the speed boost to tumble all they'd have to do is add a line of code like this;
if (dodgeRollAnimation==true){
moveSpeed==0
}
Nothing you just said except releasing shift is true. I've exploited tumble for years to move faster in quests and will continue to do so after they remove experimental tumble. I will even teach you how to do it, if you want, on a live server if you tell me which server you are on and one of your toon names.Everyone forgets they also removed the huge delay at the end of tumble where you couldn't move. That's the actual big change that made tumble useful.
Also on Lamannia you need to release shift after starting the tumble in order to achieve high speeds, you cannot just hold shift and spam W. You've never been able to go fast doing that, you can't on live servers right now even. You lightly tap shift on live to go fast, and the window is fairly small if you have 36+ tumble for the faster animation.
The fact that you can use tumble to move faster was first added to the wiki more than 13 years ago.
The fact that you can use tumble to move faster was first added to the wiki more than 13 years ago.
Both of your statements are correct. The testing I did on tumble movement speed in 2011 was base tumble animation speed without adding movement to it. Those numbers were my observation with tumble only (ie, holding shift and pressing a direction key) and then comparing it to run speed. However, those are the relative bonuses to movement speed you can get when you cancel the blocking state with frame perfect execution. I even had a level 20 pure rogue, hand wrap build designed specifically to exploit old twitch fighting mechanics, solid fog, and tumble.It says you can tumble to match hasted movement speed. That's not "use tumble to move faster" in any meaningful way.
Havnt played since this update to lama was suggested if it doesnt change i wont be back. Id suggest as player base if they dont change unsub are nessisary