Bombardier Cores and Tier 5

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Unuys

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The cores are giving +3 CL to 3 elements you can choose, and tier 5 gives another +2 CL to Red and Yellow spells...

but now the question: What does that even do if everything is capped at CL 20 anyway? Alchemist doesn't have access to any MCL increases. You can decide to spend 2 feats to gain +1 MCL but Druids (+9 MCL in total) and Sorcs (+3 MCL in total) gain them from their trees.

Anyone knows what's up with that?
 
Dandonk

Dandonk

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Only thing I can think of is Master of Spellvials, but that seems a pretty limited feat if it is in fact only the regular spellvial lvl 1 spells it affects (apart from Elemental Obliteration, anyway).

I haven't played an alch in quite a while, though, so I don't really know how that feat works in practice.
 
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Dandonk said:
Only thing I can think of is Master of Spellvials, but that seems a pretty limited feat if it is in fact only the regular spellvial lvl 1 spells it affects (apart from Elemental Obliteration, anyway).

I haven't played an alch in quite a while, though, so I don't really know how that feat works in practice.
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Sadly that's not true because both Vials and Elemental Obliterations are MCL 10 -> so MCL 20 with the Master of Spellvials which means CL from the tree are still completely useless once you are lvl 20.

Alchemist gets +5 CL in their tree but literally +0 MCL, it really is just good for lvling and once you are lvl 20 it's completely useless
 
Dandonk

Dandonk

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Unuys said:
Sadly that's not true because both Vials and Elemental Obliterations are MCL 10 -> so MCL 20 with the Master of Spellvials which means CL from the tree are still completely useless once you are lvl 20.

Alchemist gets +5 CL in their tree but literally +0 MCL, it really is just good for lvling and once you are lvl 20 it's completely useless
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Ah, that's good to know, thanks. As I said, I haven't played one in quite a while.

Yay for pointless bonuses....
 
Kimbere

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DBZ said:
Is this balance code for SALT
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More like:
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Unuys

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What I don't understand is Druids ending up at MCL 34 with their spells and Sorcs at MCL 29 and alchemist is chilling at 27 after spending 2 feats. Lol
 
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Unuys

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Even Wizard's Archmage Enhancement tree has +2 MCL in there.

Maybe it's time to change Tier 5 "Augmentation" in the Bombardier tree from "+2 Caster Levels with Crimsonite and Gildleaf spells." to -> "+2 Caster Levels and Max Caster Levels with Crimsonite and Gildleaf spells."?

@ Tonquin
 
Striga

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Unuys said:
Maybe it's time to change Tier 5 "Augmentation" in the Bombardier tree from "+2 Caster Levels with Crimsonite and Gildleaf spells." to -> "+2 Caster Levels and Max Caster Levels with Crimsonite and Gildleaf spells."?
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Maybe, but are Alchemists in a bad shape? Do they need help?
 
rabidfox

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I've leveled multiple first lifers in meh gear doing r1's (mostly solo to test them out) lately. 1 through 31 on easy difficulties isn't a good judge of how classes nor builds scale when things are set to hard modes.
 
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Striga said:
Is this about the performance at level 32 or during the remaining 31 levels of the game?
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You are asking the wrong question. I am comparing enhancement trees of nukers who are in a really bad spot in endgame content (=high reapers and raids). Level 1 to 31 is not of discussion here, because you can play everything you want on EE or r1 difficulty and have no problem at all.

-> and what we found out is that nuker trees usually have some form of MCL increase while Alchemists get left out for no reason. Changing the tier 5 "Augmentation" to +2 MCL/CL instead of only +2 CL would already solve this problem completely and I am hoping one of the devs sees this and considers this
 
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