Guntango
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If you don't hear from me, Wizards are OP.What if you do roll a DPS wizard and solo R10s, then SSG nerfs wizard DPS because they're too strong?
If you don't hear from me, Wizards are OP.What if you do roll a DPS wizard and solo R10s, then SSG nerfs wizard DPS because they're too strong?
Yes- this is the problem, I have said it many times. That's why I've said a thousand times, and several times on this topic, that what the wizard really needs is for the devs to stop designing only for casters with bypass.At least to me the issue with wizard isn't raw dps. High level arcane spells deal much more damage than they once did.
The primary issue I have with wizard is immunties and enemies that heal from an element. As a side effect this impacts gearing and spell selection significantly since you have to gear for multiple spell power types. I am not familar with the greater ruin/ruin nerf, those spells work great for me generally and the only nerf I am familiar with is R7+ not R4.
Draconic is especially promblatic for wizard when dealing with enemies that are healed by your main element. Let's say for example you are playing a palemaster specializing in negative, fire and force which is 3 things and requires significant gearing. Now you run Castle Ravenloft and get the cards with 2 red named golems at the end.
For the iron golems negative doesn't work at all. Fire heals the golems which leaves you with force. Ruin and Greater ruin are great, but..... there is no way to turn off the draconic fire element of those spells and from my experience the fire portion heals the golems more than the force portion hurts them. So unless you one shot them they are useless. Every other spell in your spell book is going to get big damage reduction or something like disintegrate just doesn't scale well to legendary. There likely won't be any souls to refill your sp. So yeah, it's going to suck as as wizard and nobody should need a spreadsheet to understand that.
In addition force and negative don't benefit from energy criticals. There are a few light and negative damage items that boost your crits to make up for that but it's been a long while since gear included those - so they often don't fit well into gear sets. I think the dev that understood the loss of energy criticals and designed those items is either gone or no longer making loot.
For a long time I used casters to solo content because they just had a better toolkit for soloing even though I prefer melee or raiding. At least now I would prefer to solo on my dragonlord because although cc and aoe isn't quite as good as top tier casting, it's close enough and hitting high dcs are easier. Survivability is much better. Single-target dps is much better. I am more useful in raids as a melee by a huge margin.
On balance I am ok with the devs making melee better than casters becasue I found it frustrating my caster would be great for questing, but I would alway have to switch to a melee for raids.
This is game where balances changes always go too far too quick and usually for all the wrong reasons.
I think you get more mileage out of moving to what works vs. trying to explain your concerns to the devs. Other players are going to jump on you in these threads, sometimes to confuse the issue because they don't want their build nerfed, and the devs don't seem very good at weeding through comments and getting at the core issue. The wack-a-mole approach to balance just means the nerfs tend to go too far and the buffs are often times perplexing.
Good luck. If you prefer casting I would go druid or sorc. They are the best 2 casting classes right now. However, why not get some dragonlord lifes and try that out. It should work way better at soloing R4 than wizard and is also better at pushing skulls higher solo. All the best.
I can solo high reaper with my wizard, you have screenshoots on this same topic. The problem is the big difference with other classes.LOL
It's disingenuous of you to hide poor behavior behind nits. Are you saying you're not creating a fuss over feelsies and lashing out at people with genuinely good points?
Please show us the math or the pics.
I'm TRing to WIZ now, tomorrow I'll officially be an authority on maining a Wiz. I'll refine it to be able to solo high Reaps. Thank you for the motivation. If it's truly lacking, I'll come back and help you make the argument you're failing to make. If you don't hear from me, then I assure you Wizard is just fine.
Not all classes can solo high reaper, so good on you for making Wizards look OP.I can solo high reaper with my wizard, you have screenshoots on this same topic. The problem is the big difference with other classes.
Some points he makes are in alignment with what I'm saying.Read Sarlona Raiding's post - it lays out exactly the problem with class, which I and other people have also exposed plenty of times.
Part of soloing R10s is building for the quests you're soloing. I'll be leaving those golem quests for the golem killers, as it should be.Enjoy the immunities! I want to see how you enjoy those r10 quests with golems
Yes'm.And don't accuse me of creating discord.
Once was enough.please reread the posts.
1- All classes can solo high reaper. Not all builds, not all toons (need investment) but yes all classes.Not all classes can solo high reaper, so good on you for making Wizards look OP.
Some points he makes are in alignment with what I'm saying.
Part of soloing R10s is building for the quests you're soloing. I'll be leaving those golem quests for the golem killers, as it should be.
Yes'm.
Once was enough.
At least you've made sure that wizards are well-represented.1- All classes can solo high reaper. Not all builds, not all toons (need investment) but yes all classes.
He was pretty succinct, though.2-And haven't you realized that what he says is what I have said, over and over again, on this topic and on others?
The foundation of this game is customization: making specific choices to determine precise outcome. Want to build a golem killer? Have at it: www.ddowiki.com3-ahhh Now the gentleman is no longer so sure. Gunga, the big problem with the wizards is the immunities and how the devs do not give good tools to use the entire spellbook, which would alleviate the problem. Choosing a quest that aligns with your best elements proves nothing.
You are not without them, but I forgive easily. XO4-Yeah? So I'm the one with bad manners?
We're going to have to start talking in code. Finally, a use for my Elvish/Dwarven 1980's copy protection rune wheel!What if you do roll a DPS wizard and solo R10s, then SSG nerfs wizard DPS because they're too strong?
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Does a person make them well represented? Wow, Gunga, I'd say no. In fact, the general consensus will tell you that wizards are not at all well represented in these types of challenges.At least you've made sure that wizards are well-represented.
He was pretty succinct, though.
The foundation of this game is customization, making specific choices to determine precise outcome. Want to build a golem killer? Have at it: www.ddowiki.com
You are not without them, but I forgive easily. XO
We buy him beer?What if you do roll a DPS wizard and solo R10s, then SSG nerfs wizard DPS because they're too strong?
Beer's good.We buy him beer?
This is you not seeing the forest for the trees.Of course the foundation of the game is customization, but you're going off on a tangent.
You're participating in a campaign to change the game. Any active member of the user base can question your assumptions, especially those made without any supporting evidence. Contrary to your mischaracterizations and because I actually value our little forum community in which your voice booms, I've TR'd my cold druid, which has sat for 6 months since the gutting of caster DPS, into a wizard. I do this in honest discovery, at my expense, to find out what you've been unable to show us. I don't mind. I like the game, and I'm happy to dedicate some time to understand what you're so upset about.Well, Gunga, be mindful of your own behavior. You have gone to provoke from the first moment, without taking into account the arguments that you did not like. It seems that you can give me ugly adjectives and distort what I say but you get upset if I tell you that you are looking for conflict. But unlike you, I don't think there is anything to forgive you for. I don't get angry over such a small thing. A hug, bud.
If I were you, I'd thank me, but I suspect I'll receive less.
Not see the forest? Only because you say it. Maybe you are who is lost.
A campaign to change the game? Lol. Wow, you give me more influence than I have, Gunga. No, no campaign. But I am unhappy with the current direction of the game, and I have tried to get SSG to change a few things: the state of the alts (aka excessive grinding without a catch up mechanism), the continuous overnerfs instead of scalpel adjustments, the current design standardized that harms some classes and makes us lose options, and the VIP subscription (although the latter no longer affects me, so do what they want with it lol). That is not changing the game to a different one, but asking that they return to a design more similar to the one that existed before. I've been here 13 years. I believe that since SSG has taken the game there have been changes that have not been for the better.
If you consider that introducing catch up mechanisms, avoiding overnerfs that create massive waves of discontent, a design less restricted and more tailored to the different playstyles and a VIP subscription that is worth it (by the way, you have also complained about this, it will be that this does affect you...) is to change the game, well okay, I want to change the game. I see it more as returning to a better era of DDO. On the other hand, SSG has also done some things well, and I have praised them. Not everything has been bad.
I have put screenshots in various topics, including this one. If you were expecting me to jump into screenshoots today, I'm sorry, my wizard is on her last TR right now. Soon I will return to wizard again, having finished this last bunch of PLs that the devs have served us. But I have given more than enough explanations, others in this topic have explained the problems that the wizard has as well. So if you don't understand it's not for lack of explanations, Gunga. Could it be that you don't want to understand?
If you consider that cold druid has little dps after the nerf and that is why you have left it in dry dock for six months, I'm afraid that changing to wizard is not going to make you happier. But perfect, try whatever you want.
Very easy to say, hard to prove. Just do it! If you do, the only thing I'm going to do is ask you to teach me, I have no problem with that. It's very simple and easy, prove your words!!!!I'm going to have to since you guys can't. You're welcome.
I'm gearing up, running a round of reaps, and getting comfy on it. I'll let you know my progress.Very easy to say, hard to prove. Just do it! If you do, the only thing I'm going to do is ask you to teach me, I have no problem with that. It's very simple and easy, prove your words!!!!
Very serious! Prove your words and if you do, most importantly, teach us!!I'm gearing up, running a round of reaps, and getting comfy on it. I'll let you know my progress.