Lamannia Update 64+ Feedback: Legendary Chronoscope
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Lazuli
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Bad change, it's easier to complete groups when the raids don't have lockouts...
The Blonde
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I honest to god hope they don't expect us to go back to farming Star Fragments to get the new loot. Mercy, please.
wdhvenrick
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My opinion is that it should not lock.
rabidfox
The People's Champion
The loot is all heroic versions of the gear, so <sigh>.
Venatori d' Argonnessen
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Running on legendary resulted in heroic loot, an epic chest (that didnt drop tokens), the same runes as the heroic/epic, slivers of time, and no threads.
There was also no raid death timer other than the usual reaper timer.
I expect the lack of threads to be a bug, and I hope getting heroic loot in a legendary raid is also an oversight because even through you can upgrade it, it feels really bad to open a chest at the end of a raid and get gear that is 27 levels below you. Mythic / reaper boosts also cant be acquired on loot that is upgraded which is also disappointing.
I really hope that this raid is changed to just drop the legendary loot in addition to the crafting mats if someone wants to get it another way.
It also feels weird to be able to get legendary end game raid loot and not need to run a legendary raid (looking at you gem of many facets) since all the loot is acquirable simply by running the epic version instead.
Raids locking out is something that always feels really weird and bad to me. If theres 10 or 11 people in a group that can handle the raid Id like to get going, but if we do, then someone logs on they either cant join or we have to restart and that feels bad. If the concern is people wiping and releasing out, then reentering, why not replace the raid lock with a reaper lock that locks once you exit the dungeon?
Thank you for the work!
There was also no raid death timer other than the usual reaper timer.
I expect the lack of threads to be a bug, and I hope getting heroic loot in a legendary raid is also an oversight because even through you can upgrade it, it feels really bad to open a chest at the end of a raid and get gear that is 27 levels below you. Mythic / reaper boosts also cant be acquired on loot that is upgraded which is also disappointing.
I really hope that this raid is changed to just drop the legendary loot in addition to the crafting mats if someone wants to get it another way.
It also feels weird to be able to get legendary end game raid loot and not need to run a legendary raid (looking at you gem of many facets) since all the loot is acquirable simply by running the epic version instead.
Raids locking out is something that always feels really weird and bad to me. If theres 10 or 11 people in a group that can handle the raid Id like to get going, but if we do, then someone logs on they either cant join or we have to restart and that feels bad. If the concern is people wiping and releasing out, then reentering, why not replace the raid lock with a reaper lock that locks once you exit the dungeon?
Thank you for the work!
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Ying
5000+ hours played
The sewer fight is Legendary Annoying.
When fighting some of the Circle of the Great Scorn as a melee (20 Rogue with TWF daggers), I had to keep moving forward while rooted in the circle in order for them to take damage. So perhaps reduce their circle radius ever so slightly so that isn't necessary.
ETA: fixed typos
When fighting some of the Circle of the Great Scorn as a melee (20 Rogue with TWF daggers), I had to keep moving forward while rooted in the circle in order for them to take damage. So perhaps reduce their circle radius ever so slightly so that isn't necessary.
ETA: fixed typos
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Ying
5000+ hours played
One data point: We ran LH shortmanned and all four of us got a token. But yeah, I get your point about an "epic chest" for a legendary raid.
Venatori d' Argonnessen
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Huh, good to know!
Ying
5000+ hours played
Pretty much.
There are new mechanics for each boss fight. Bloodplate has a persistent disease circle, the sewer fight has annoying wisp circles that trap you in place (this is the hardest part of the raid), and the end fight has some additional circle/triangle area of effect mechanics.
Venatori d' Argonnessen
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One other note is that bloodplate is pretty easy to safespot by hiding behind the pillars and intiming. He just stands on the other side and shoots bolts into the pillar. He might want to be made to teleport on top of you or have some other mechanic!
As ying said, the circles for the scorn might want to be slightly smaller for easy of melee, though if you jump into them you can land on top so might not be a large issue.
End boss is cool, though I feel like there could be a little more going on there, maybe make trash spawn faster / more consistently?
As ying said, the circles for the scorn might want to be slightly smaller for easy of melee, though if you jump into them you can land on top so might not be a large issue.
End boss is cool, though I feel like there could be a little more going on there, maybe make trash spawn faster / more consistently?
Heroic should drop heroic loot.
Epic should drop epic loot. Including epic GoMF
And legendary should drop legendary loot including GoMF.
The upgrade system is far too punishing for raid items. Raid tokens should drop in every raid and Star fragments should drop in every expansion that uses the system.
Epic should drop epic loot. Including epic GoMF
And legendary should drop legendary loot including GoMF.
The upgrade system is far too punishing for raid items. Raid tokens should drop in every raid and Star fragments should drop in every expansion that uses the system.
rabidfox
The People's Champion
Slow rolled heroic & epic versions, neither had the new fight mechanics from what I saw, just the raid lockouts.
IMO the heroic/epic raid lockouts is a bad thing; late entry on raids people rarely run is a big selling point to those versions. Devs should roll that back.
edit: Transformation scripting on the end fight seems broken, it's not changing at set points; the boss may only do 1 or 2 forms.
IMO the heroic/epic raid lockouts is a bad thing; late entry on raids people rarely run is a big selling point to those versions. Devs should roll that back.
edit: Transformation scripting on the end fight seems broken, it's not changing at set points; the boss may only do 1 or 2 forms.
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